flagellant www

When I go to sleep at night, I am, to all intents and purposes, unconscious of the World around me. When I have had general anaesthesia, during that time I might as well be dead: there is no 'me’ conscious to experience anything. Of course, currently, I wake up from sleep and anaesthesia so that I can once more experience things.

Death involves a permanent loss of consciousness, something far deeper than temporary sleep, induced or not, plus the decay of the body, including the brain, which interprets experience. There is no coming back from that, whatever ancient texts might claim.

I accept that death is final and that there is no such thing as an afterlife. However, humouring your question and considering the extremely vague possibility that there is a heaven, I would not be in a position to experience it so I couldn’t enjoy it.

I don’t even want to spend time imagining 'heaven’: it would be a waste of time; I’d far rather concentrate on appreciating and enjoying the finite life I have.

Posted: November 5th 2009

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bitbutter www

The claim is that a part of a person can end up in heaven. The problem is, that the body (including the brain) doesn’t come along. Everything we know about the brain indicates that it’s the seat of our identity; for instance, we know that brain damage can change a person’s character entirely.

Without my senses, my memory, my desires, my ambitions and my fears (all functions of my brain) there’s no 'me’ left.

So the proposition that 'I’ could go to a place, without my brain is incomprehensible since I am my brain.

If, on the other hand, my body and brain could somehow go to heaven, the clearest image I have of the place sounds as though nothing much happens there; that it would be like being perpetually hooked up to a pleasure machine tickling my brain’s 'bliss center’. For a person in that situation, I’m sure nothing would feel better, but outside of it, it sounds a little sad to me, not so appealing—an experience that could be fairly emulated by taking an overdose of heroin.

Posted: November 5th 2009

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Reed Braden www

That depends. Can I have gay sex in Heaven? And will I be skinnier there than I ever was on Earth? And can I have a larger penis?

Unless your god can grant me these, I wouldn’t be happy in his eternity.

Seriously, I’m comfortable knowing that when I die, my life ends permanently. It makes my life on Earth that much more important and meaningful. I would hate to sit around worshiping some arrogant sky fairy for eternity.

Posted: November 5th 2009

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George Locke

It’s heaven, I mean, am I supposed to be bored by eternal bliss? Of course I’d enjoy it.

Posted: November 4th 2009

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You might as well ask if I would enjoy living in North Korea.

(The answer is no.)

Posted: November 4th 2009

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Which heaven?

Valhalla is probably a partyin’ place, though I think it would get tiring after a while and I’m not fond of the requirement to get in.

The christian heaven sounds pretty boring and contradictory.

Posted: November 4th 2009

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Dave Hitt www

I like the explanation of the great philosopher David Byrne:


Heaven is a place

A place where nothing

Ever happens.

Nearly everything I love has a physical component to it: A great steak, a fine cigar, a beautiful view, sex, reading, movies, conversation with people who have different beliefs and viewpoints than me, walking the dog, the change of seasons, etc. Heaven, we’re told, has none of those things.

It is supposed to be full of music, but all the musicians I like will be in hell.

Posted: November 4th 2009

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